{"id":7415,"date":"2010-04-06T17:32:38","date_gmt":"2010-04-06T16:32:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/baseballgb.co.uk\/?p=7415"},"modified":"2010-04-06T17:33:48","modified_gmt":"2010-04-06T16:33:48","slug":"you-are-the-scorer-reader-query-with-a-video","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/baseballgb.co.uk\/?p=7415","title":{"rendered":"You Are the Scorer: Reader query (with a video!)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"center;\"><span style=\"12.0pt;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5684\" title=\"YouAreScorer\" src=\"https:\/\/baseballgb.co.uk\/wp-content\/YouAreScorer.gif\" alt=\"YouAreScorer\" width=\"473\" height=\"84\" srcset=\"https:\/\/baseballgb.co.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/YouAreScorer.gif 473w, https:\/\/baseballgb.co.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/YouAreScorer-300x53.gif 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 473px) 100vw, 473px\" \/><br \/>\n<\/span>Thanks to CJ Evans from the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chelmsfordbaseballclub.co.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\">Chelmsford Clippers<\/a> for this question. For the first time ever on the column we have a video to go with it, which is embedded below.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"center;\">\n<p><object classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" width=\"500\" height=\"405\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/wQX-LZAt8io&amp;hl=en_GB&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;border=1\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><embed type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" width=\"500\" height=\"405\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/wQX-LZAt8io&amp;hl=en_GB&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;border=1\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n<p><!--more-->The descriptive text and question posted in the accompanying text on YouTube is as follows:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;British baseball play, pop-up to pitcher, runners on 1 and 3.\u00c2\u00a0Runner at 1 goes on contact with none out and gets doubled off trying to get back.\u00c2\u00a0Runner at 3 comes home on the play and scores without a throw.\u00c2\u00a0Question &#8211; how do you score it?&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div id=\"_mcePaste\" style=\"position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;\">British baseball play, pop-up to pitcher, runners on 1 and 3.<\/div>\n<div id=\"_mcePaste\" style=\"position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;\">Runner at 1 goes on contact with none out and gets doubled off trying to get back.<\/div>\n<div id=\"_mcePaste\" style=\"position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;\">Runner at 3 comes home on the play and scores without a throw.<\/div>\n<div id=\"_mcePaste\" style=\"position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;\">Question &#8211; how do you score it?<\/div>\n<p>In particular, CJ wants to know the following:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>&#8220;Should 1B be charged with an error for not throwing?&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;Can there be a sac fly on an infield\u00c2\u00a0pop-up?&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;Does the pitcher get charged with an earned run? (After this play\u00c2\u00a0there is a walk and then a ground out so he would have been stranded if the following plays bore out.)&#8221;<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>These are my thoughts on those three questions. If anyone concurs or disagrees, please feel free to chip in with a comment.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>This is a mental mistake so no error is charged. (Rule 10.12(a)(1) Comment: &#8220;The official scorer shall not score mental mistakes or misjudgments as errors unless a specific rule prescribes otherwise.&#8221; I am not aware of a rule in the book overriding this general statement.)<\/li>\n<li>A sacrifice fly should never be scored for a catch taken in the infield. (Rule 10.08(d): &#8220;Score a sacrifice fly when, before two are out, the batter hits a ball in flight handled by an outfielder or an infielder running in the outfield in fair or foul territory.&#8221;)<\/li>\n<li>Yes, because no error is charged on the play.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>So it goes in the book as a double-play comprising a fly-out to 1 and a 1-3 put-out, with the run being scored on the play, and no error being charged. Thus, the batter is charged with a time at-bat and no-one gets a run batted in. Also note that the runner who is put out trying to return to first does not get charged with a caught stealing because the action occurred on a ball in play (as soon as the ball is put in play, all stolen base\/caught stealing considerations are voided). I mention this last point because it was a question I got from a rookie scorer on the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.leicesterbluesox.co.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\">Leicester Blue Sox<\/a> a couple of weekends back at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hertsbaseball.com\/HSL\/schedule.html\" target=\"_blank\">Herts Spring League<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em>To post a question, please contact me by email if you have my address or by using the <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/baseballgb.co.uk\/?page_id=5830\" target=\"_blank\"><em>About &gt; Get in contact<\/em><\/a><em> functionality of the site if not. I&#8217;ll turn the best ones into posts for the site. Alternatively, to hunt through all the You Are the Scorer questions, including the 50 questions that kicked the forum off, <\/em><a href=\"\/\/www.baseballgb.co.uk\/?cat=41\u00e2\u20ac\u009d\" target=\"\u00e2\u20ac\u009d_blank\u00e2\u20ac\u009d\"><em>click here<\/em><\/a><em>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thanks to CJ Evans from the Chelmsford Clippers for this question. 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