{"id":977,"date":"2008-10-24T20:48:06","date_gmt":"2008-10-24T19:48:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/baseballgb.co.uk\/?p=977"},"modified":"2019-11-09T21:46:05","modified_gmt":"2019-11-09T21:46:05","slug":"545-to-folkestone-longest-games-and-world-war-i-ball","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/baseballgb.co.uk\/?p=977","title":{"rendered":"5:45 to Folkestone: Longest games and World War I ball"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"CobbIt’s less than a week since the launch of Project Cobb, and already the lists of collaborators and their research projects\u00c2\u00a0have begun to\u00c2\u00a0grow. This growth has resulted from\u00c2\u00a0investigation of\u00c2\u00a0several existing\u00c2\u00a0leads, as well as an email in the Baseball on Five mailbox that was kindly passed on by Jonny and Josh. Here’s a look at some projects being carried out by the four new collaborators. The Project Cobb webpage<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0has details of how you can help,\u00c2\u00a0should you have information.
\nAndrew Taylor<\/strong><\/p>\n

Baseball in Kent during World War I<\/h5>\n

While working for Kent Libraries in a research capacity, baseball fan Andrew Taylor was passed a letter from a Canadian man who was trying to piece together his grandfather’s military career in\u00c2\u00a0World War I. Folkestone, in Kent,\u00c2\u00a0was a major embarkation point in World War I and many Canadian regiments were resident at the local barracks throughout the war.<\/p>\n

The research that followed led Andrew to uncover a match report and photos from a baseball game played in 1915\u00c2\u00a0at Folkestone Cricket Ground between the 6th Field Co Div Engineers and the 27th (City of Winnipeg) Battalion.
\n\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n

\"Match<\/h4>\n

\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 Match report from the game at Folkestone Cricket Club in 1915<\/h6>\n

\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n

\"A<\/h4>\n

\u00c2\u00a0 \u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 A player from the 6th Field Co Div Engineers at the plate<\/h6>\n

\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n

\"A<\/h4>\n

\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 A player from the 27th (City of Winnipeg) Battalion at the plate
\n\u00c2\u00a0<\/h6>\n

There is\u00c2\u00a0also\u00c2\u00a0a photo<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0of a Canadian Corps Division team from a game\u00c2\u00a0in July 1918, played at nearby Shorncliffe,\u00c2\u00a0in which they beat an\u00c2\u00a0American forces\u00c2\u00a0team.<\/p>\n

With his interest sparked by the initial discoveries, Andrew is currently compiling a history of baseball in the Folkestone area during World War I. He has already\u00c2\u00a0discovered that\u00c2\u00a0some games were\u00c2\u00a0reported to draw local crowds of a few thousand.
\n\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n

Baseball in Wartime<\/h4>\n
Baseball\u00c2\u00a0on British soil relating to\u00c2\u00a0World War II<\/h5>\n

Baseball in Wartime<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0is a website run by Gary Bedingfield, who played in the 1980s and 1990s for the Enfield Spartans, in north London, as well as representing the Great Britain team. Gary, an Englishman,\u00c2\u00a0now\u00c2\u00a0lives in Glasgow,\u00c2\u00a0having moved there from\u00c2\u00a0north London\u00c2\u00a0several years ago. So how did he develop an interest in baseball during World War II? The answer is on his site:<\/p>\n

\n

“As my playing days came to an end, I developed an appetite for the history of the game, searching for links between baseball and my own country. I have always been interested in WWII history and it was in the mid-90s I was thinking about American servicemen in Britain during the war and wondering what their affiliation with baseball<\/span> could have been. Were there any minor league players here? Maybe even a major league player or two might have passed through Britain.<\/span>\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n

A little research showed that many ball players had indeed served and also played baseball<\/span> in this country during the war.”<\/span>\u00c2\u00a0<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

For Gary, the website is the beginning of a long project:<\/p>\n

“My\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0intention is to include ALL information on baseball relating to World War II. It’s a pretty tall order and I doubt I’ll see it completed in my lifetime but I’ll certainly give it a go!”
\n\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

British Baseball Data<\/h4>\n

British baseball in the 1950s<\/h5>\n

Mark Tobin has\u00c2\u00a0been steadily gathering information on league standings from the past few decades for his website British Baseball Data<\/a>, but he has now widened his focus by delving into the 1950s. Mark summarizes the 1950s on his site:<\/p>\n

“This was almost like the ‘forgotten era’ in English baseball’s history. The game was going through a strong period of growth, yet the regions were at loggerheads with each other, and because of this, there were no National finals contested for seven years during the decade.<\/p>\n

In the 1950s there were two leagues operating in the South of England – the Western League and the bigger South Eastern League. The two leagues were not hostile towards each other. [I]n fact they met in an annual all-star game called the Coronation Cup.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

To kick things off, Mark has catalogued some of the “great team names” from that time\u00c2\u00a0to\u00c2\u00a0prevent them\u00c2\u00a0“fading into history.”
\n\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n

Phil Lowry<\/h4>\n
Longest games in Britain<\/h5>\n

Phil Lowry has been\u00c2\u00a0researching long baseball games\u00c2\u00a0since 1963 and must be the world expert on the subject. The origin of this particular interest is explained in an article<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0Phil wrote for SABR’s Baseball Research Journal<\/em> in 2004.<\/p>\n

“[M]y father and I attended a 26-inning twi-night doubleheader at Forbes Field Aug 9, 1963. After a long rain delay, the first game took 15 innings. Roberto Clemente\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s RBI single ended the second game in the bottom of the 11th at 2:30 AM. The next day, we discovered that nobody at KDKA Radio or any Pittsburgh newspaper, indeed nobody in the entire world, could answer the question, ‘Is that the longest-ever night of baseball?'”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Phil is not just interested in North American baseball, though, with the longest game he has found yet being a 45-inning affair\u00c2\u00a0that took place at the Ibaraki-Mito Prefectural Stadium in Mito, Japan, on 20 September 1983. It was the title game of the 38th annual Emperor\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Cup Nan-shiki Tournament\u00c2\u00a0and was\u00c2\u00a0between Light Manufacturing (Raito Kogyo) of Tokyo and Tanaka Hospital (Byouin) of Miyazaki. The first\u00c2\u00a0scoring of the game did not come until the 35th inning, but both teams pushed across\u00c2\u00a0a run in the frame. The game\u00c2\u00a0was won in the 45th; Light Manufacturing scored to make it 2-1 in the top half of the inning.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n

Of course, this is not necessarily the longest game ever played, as Phil notes in the 2004 article:<\/p>\n

\n

“Could I have spent 41 years searching for the longest game by innings, and missed one lasting more than 45 innings? I think the answer is yes. It took me 40 years and 11 months of searching before Jul 23, 2004, which is when, thanks to Mr. Masaru \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Massy\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Ikei of Yokohama, Japan, I found the 45-inning game in Mito.\u00c2\u00a0Who is to say a game longer than 45 innings may not be found in some dusty archive next month?”<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Phil defines a “marathon game” as one lasting at least 5 hours or 20 innings or more. He has already found details of four games played on British soil fitting this category, but has nothing yet for Wales or Northern Ireland. He would really like information on any long games played in those two countries, even if they were not technically “marathons”. The four British marathons are:<\/p>\n

Length 5:45 \u00e2\u20ac\u201c August 1995 \u00e2\u20ac\u201c Edinburgh Reivers 12 Glasgow Comets 11 in 12 innings.<\/p>\n

Length 5:02 \u00e2\u20ac\u201c April 2003 \u00e2\u20ac\u201c Croydon Pirates 14 Menwith Hill Patriots 13 in 13 innings.<\/p>\n

Length 5:00 \u00e2\u20ac\u201c June 1995 \u00e2\u20ac\u201c Guildford Mavericks 28 Bracknell Blazers 27.<\/p>\n

Length 5:00 \u00e2\u20ac\u201c 2000 \u00e2\u20ac\u201c Milton Keynes Rebels at Hertfordshire Falcons.<\/p>\n

Steve Bartley<\/a>, who wrote a couple of very amusing articles for BaseballGB<\/em> back in May,\u00c2\u00a0posted this gem of a game report on the Pirates website\u00c2\u00a0for the 5:02 game mentioned above:<\/p>\n

“Epics that take this long usually involve Charlton Heston stabbing Romans. In five hours two minutes the Pirates went 13 innings in their season opener, beating the Menwith Hill Patriots 14-13.<\/p>\n

The Pirates will know that it shouldn’t have been so close. The Pirates dominated the early innings, leading 10-4 going into the fifth. But the Patriots, whose starter Shanks would throw a deadball-era-type 213 pitches in 11 innings of work, scrambled back with a strong inning in the sixth and three runs in the seventh to go ahead 13-12.<\/p>\n

As the weather grew colder and the ump put his coat on thoughts wandered to whether this would mean a bigger strike zone. Apparently not. The first seven innings had taken nearly three hours and had notched up 19 walks.<\/p>\n

And this was no mean strike zone – 27 struck out in all, home plate umpire James Norman signalling strikes with his right arm as if grabbing the scruff of the neck of a man twice his size and growling his authority.<\/p>\n

Stalemate followed until the bottom of the ninth. Needing a run to tie it, Alec Gatrell struck out on a slider and Billy Richardson popped out to the second baseman. Then Jason Raffantigot aboard with a single to left.<\/p>\n

With Raffanti on first and Scott Carson at the plate Shanks was distracted long enough to balk on a pick-off throw. He stole third as Carson worked the count to 2-and-2 before he slapped a bouncing ground ball through the diving bodies up the middle to level the score.<\/p>\n

Three innings of scoreless baseball followed and the five-hour mark loomed. But as the wind died down the sun came out the two sides kept heads raised for another inning.<\/p>\n

Extra innings sometimes makes hitters go for the fences, but after Menwith Hill went scoreless in the top of the 13th, Gatrell managed a lead off walk.<\/p>\n

Despite Hamannbeing fresh on the mound he let slip two wild pitches with two outs and Carson at the plate. Gatrelltook third on one and scrambled home on the other taking to the air like he was pouncing on a chicken in a courtyard and dived home with the winning run.<\/p>\n

Pirates hitters combined for a .260 average, Pete Garthwaite standing out going 4-for-7 with two runs and three RBI’s. But Pirates reliever Rob George ultimately contributed a significant seven and one third innings, giving up just three earned runs on five hits and striking out nine, ending the game having pitches six straight shut out innings.<\/p>\n

The Patriots, who are in their first season in the RNL played some good fundamental baseball behind some impressive pitching from Shanks.<\/p>\n

Despite suffering the brunt of the Pirates offence Shanks, who had a fluid delivery and had the appearance of sciatic pain as he paused to check the runners, maintained enough stuff to keep his side in the game well into extra innings.<\/p>\n

The Pirates, who followed the next day with a friendly win 9-7 over the Richmond Flames will look to tighten up the weaknesses exposed in their opener, primarily giving up walks and errors which allowed Menwith Hill three vital runs in all. Pirates pitchers walked six lead off hitters, and five of their 13 walks resulted in runs scored. The side looks strong and will play better when these gaps are closed.<\/p>\n

One walk in particular stood out, earned after a ding-dong on Patriots second baseman Brown who fouled off a first pitch bunt and proved that the jockstrap isn’t always enough. He fell to the ground and tried to bury his head in the home plate sand.<\/p>\n

After minutes of lying still he got to his feet and bravely dug in at the plate, albeit a little sheepishly. He tried to work a walk, and who could blame him? He got it, dancing a slow shuffle down to first base. As one observer noted, a base on balls never had such a literal meaning.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n

Are you currently researching a part of British baseball history? Do you have any materials or memories that you could share? If so, please leave a comment.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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